[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":-1},["ShallowReactive",2],{"topic-5164":3},{"id":4,"firstPostId":5,"title":6,"author":7,"date":15,"lastReply":16,"category":17,"tags":18,"isFeatured":20,"isSticky":20,"isLocked":20,"isResolved":20,"bestAnswerPostId":14,"canSticky":20,"canLock":20,"commentsCount":21,"lastPostNumber":22,"lastReadPostNumber":14,"hasNewMessages":20,"unreadCount":23,"views":24,"subscribersCount":22,"isSubscribed":20,"userVote":23,"votesCount":23,"bodyHtml":25,"rawContent":26,"rawCreatedAt":27,"rawLastPostedAt":28,"answers":29},5164,21141,"Можно не заводить новый журнал вводного инструктажа?",{"id":8,"username":9,"name":10,"initials":11,"color":12,"avatarUrl":13,"groupBadge":14},"1845","14059798062725578315","Darya007","DA","#B45309","\u002Fassets\u002Favatars\u002FTLjy8JrlvGfi1Vhy.png",null,"25 нояб. 2022 г.","17 нояб. 2023 г.","Охрана труда",[17,19],"журналы",false,10,11,0,1200,"\u003Cp>Всем добрый день! \u003Cbr>\u003Cbr>Допустимо ли продолжать вести старый журнал регистрации вводного инструктажа после 1.09.2022? \u003Cbr>\u003Cbr>Единственное изменение в указании данных - дата рождения пишется полностью. Остальные данные корректны и соответствуют требованиям пункта 87 Порядка обучения по ОТ, утвержденного Постановлением Правительства 2464. \u003Cbr>\u003Cbr>Все те, кто будет трудоустроен после 1.09.2022 будут записаны в соотвествии с требованием 2464, то есть с датой, Месяцем и годом рождения.\u003C\u002Fp> ","Всем добрый день! \n\nДопустимо ли продолжать вести старый журнал регистрации вводного инструктажа после 1.09.2022? \n\nЕдинственное изменение в указании данных - дата рождения пишется полностью. Остальные данные корректны и соответствуют требованиям пункта 87 Порядка обучения по ОТ, утвержденного Постановлением Правительства 2464. \n\nВсе те, кто будет трудоустроен после 1.09.2022 будут записаны в соотвествии с требованием 2464, то есть с датой, Месяцем и годом рождения.","2022-11-25T11:49:00+00:00","2023-11-17T09:31:20+00:00",[30,46,75,92,108,125,142,156,171,186],{"id":31,"number":32,"author":33,"date":15,"isSolution":20,"text":40,"rawContent":41,"votes":23,"userVote":23,"canFlag":20,"canVote":20,"canEdit":20,"canDelete":20,"isEditing":20,"reactions":42,"reactionUsers":43,"reactedEmoji":14,"comments":44,"isCommentsOpen":20,"rawCreatedAt":45},21142,2,{"id":34,"username":35,"name":36,"initials":37,"color":38,"avatarUrl":39,"groupBadge":14},"1058","chernoff","Артем","АР","#4338CA","\u002Fassets\u002Favatars\u002FiPyn0i2UBI7stKbt.png","\u003Cp>Да, так и делаю.\u003C\u002Fp>","Да, так и делаю.",{},{},[],"2022-11-25T12:06:30+00:00",{"id":47,"number":48,"author":49,"date":15,"isSolution":20,"text":61,"rawContent":62,"votes":23,"userVote":23,"canFlag":20,"canVote":20,"canEdit":20,"canDelete":20,"isEditing":20,"reactions":63,"reactionUsers":64,"reactedEmoji":14,"comments":65,"isCommentsOpen":20,"rawCreatedAt":74},21143,3,{"id":50,"username":51,"name":52,"initials":53,"color":54,"avatarUrl":55,"groupBadge":56},"1192","olka","Olka","OL","#1D4ED8","\u002Fassets\u002Favatars\u002F3vgfKuwEmClvH9uj.png",{"id":57,"name":58,"icon":59,"color":60},5,"Эксперт","fas fa-star","#287b32","\u003Cp>п.9. Правил \"Формы и методы проведения инструктажа по охране труда определяются работодателем. \"\u003Cbr>\u003Cbr> Использование имеющихся форм журналов регистрации инструктажа допустимо при условии, что в нем содержатся  все данные, указанные в п.87 Правил.\u003C\u002Fp>","п.9. Правил \"Формы и методы проведения инструктажа по охране труда определяются работодателем. \"\n\n Использование имеющихся форм журналов регистрации инструктажа допустимо при условии, что в нем содержатся  все данные, указанные в п.87 Правил.",{},{},[66],{"id":67,"parentId":14,"author":68,"date":15,"text":70,"rawContent":71,"canEdit":20,"canDelete":20,"votes":72,"userVote":23,"reactions":73,"reactedEmoji":14},4385,{"id":50,"username":51,"name":52,"initials":53,"color":54,"avatarUrl":55,"groupBadge":69},{"id":57,"name":58,"icon":59,"color":60},"\u003Cp>п.86\u003C\u002Fp>","п.86",1,{},"2022-11-25T12:09:44+00:00",{"id":76,"number":77,"author":78,"date":85,"isSolution":20,"text":86,"rawContent":87,"votes":23,"userVote":23,"canFlag":20,"canVote":20,"canEdit":20,"canDelete":20,"isEditing":20,"reactions":88,"reactionUsers":89,"reactedEmoji":14,"comments":90,"isCommentsOpen":20,"rawCreatedAt":91},39797,4,{"id":79,"username":80,"name":81,"initials":82,"color":83,"avatarUrl":84,"groupBadge":14},"2462","SH12c8f4b14df28b12a7fdf","Максим С.","МС","#334155","\u002Fassets\u002Favatars\u002FdpQkh4FgokKVaiPE.png","2 окт. 2023 г.","\u003Cp>Да. Зачеркиваете слово \"Год\" и пишите \"Дата\" (рождения). И все как раньше\u003C\u002Fp>","Да. Зачеркиваете слово \"Год\" и пишите \"Дата\" (рождения). И все как раньше",{},{},[],"2023-10-02T23:10:20+00:00",{"id":93,"number":57,"author":94,"date":101,"isSolution":20,"text":102,"rawContent":103,"votes":23,"userVote":23,"canFlag":20,"canVote":20,"canEdit":20,"canDelete":20,"isEditing":20,"reactions":104,"reactionUsers":105,"reactedEmoji":14,"comments":106,"isCommentsOpen":20,"rawCreatedAt":107},39800,{"id":95,"username":96,"name":97,"initials":98,"color":99,"avatarUrl":100,"groupBadge":14},"80","zhurtov","Алим Хасанович","АХ","#BE123C","\u002Fassets\u002Favatars\u002FkcLqDwztoYDg97e4.png","3 окт. 2023 г.","\u003Cblockquote class=\"uncited\">\u003Cdiv>\u003Cp>\u003Ca href=\"\u002Fquestion\u002F5164#post-1\" class=\"PostMention post-mention-tag\" data-id=\"21141\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">\u003Cspan class=\"mention-reply-arrow\" title=\"Перейти к сообщению\">⮑\u003C\u002Fspan> \u003Cspan class=\"mention-author-name\" title=\"Карточка специалиста SpecHelp ID\">Darya007\u003C\u002Fspan>\u003C\u002Fa> старый журнал регистрации вводного инструктажа после 1.09.2022?\u003C\u002Fp>\u003C\u002Fdiv>\u003C\u002Fblockquote>\u003Cp>Можно, конечно, но я вообще перешёл на листы инструктажей и не парюсь\u003C\u002Fp>","[Darya007](http:\u002F\u002F185.104.248.233\u002Fd\u002F5164\u002F1) старый журнал регистрации вводного инструктажа после 1.09.2022?\n\nМожно, конечно, но я вообще перешёл на листы инструктажей и не парюсь",{},{},[],"2023-10-03T00:40:14+00:00",{"id":109,"number":110,"author":111,"date":101,"isSolution":20,"text":119,"rawContent":120,"votes":23,"userVote":23,"canFlag":20,"canVote":20,"canEdit":20,"canDelete":20,"isEditing":20,"reactions":121,"reactionUsers":122,"reactedEmoji":14,"comments":123,"isCommentsOpen":20,"rawCreatedAt":124},39816,6,{"id":112,"username":113,"name":114,"initials":115,"color":116,"avatarUrl":117,"groupBadge":118},"425","smirnov","Sergey","SE","#B91C1C","\u002Fassets\u002Favatars\u002FESlleolEd2ONK8ZA.png",{"id":57,"name":58,"icon":59,"color":60},"\u003Cp>\u003Ca href=\"\u002Fquestion\u002F5164#post-1\" class=\"PostMention post-mention-tag\" data-id=\"21141\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">\u003Cspan class=\"mention-reply-arrow\" title=\"Перейти к сообщению\">⮑\u003C\u002Fspan> \u003Cspan class=\"mention-author-name\" title=\"Карточка специалиста SpecHelp ID\">Darya007\u003C\u002Fspan>\u003C\u002Fa> Здравствуйте, продолжаю вести журнал ВИ, только пишу дату рождения. Заводить новый журнал не вижу смысла.\u003C\u002Fp>","[Darya007](http:\u002F\u002F185.104.248.233\u002Fd\u002F5164\u002F1) Здравствуйте, продолжаю вести журнал ВИ, только пишу дату рождения. Заводить новый журнал не вижу смысла.",{},{},[],"2023-10-03T05:11:33+00:00",{"id":126,"number":127,"author":128,"date":101,"isSolution":20,"text":136,"rawContent":137,"votes":23,"userVote":23,"canFlag":20,"canVote":20,"canEdit":20,"canDelete":20,"isEditing":20,"reactions":138,"reactionUsers":139,"reactedEmoji":14,"comments":140,"isCommentsOpen":20,"rawCreatedAt":141},39817,7,{"id":129,"username":130,"name":131,"initials":132,"color":133,"avatarUrl":134,"groupBadge":135},"2785","minailov","_RosSia","_R","#0369A1","\u002Fassets\u002Favatars\u002FFUGsd2G81vOsDsLD.png",{"id":57,"name":58,"icon":59,"color":60},"\u003Cp>Продолжаю также вести журнал просто даты раскрываю\u003C\u002Fp>","Продолжаю также вести журнал просто даты раскрываю",{},{},[],"2023-10-03T05:17:23+00:00",{"id":143,"number":144,"author":145,"date":101,"isSolution":20,"text":150,"rawContent":151,"votes":23,"userVote":23,"canFlag":20,"canVote":20,"canEdit":20,"canDelete":20,"isEditing":20,"reactions":152,"reactionUsers":153,"reactedEmoji":14,"comments":154,"isCommentsOpen":20,"rawCreatedAt":155},39823,8,{"id":146,"username":147,"name":148,"initials":149,"color":38,"avatarUrl":14,"groupBadge":14},"4458","15457763141500850146","Алексей","АЛ","\u003Cp>Ведём также.  Закончится и тогда заведём новый журнал.\u003C\u002Fp>","Ведём также.  Закончится и тогда заведём новый журнал.",{},{},[],"2023-10-03T06:24:20+00:00",{"id":157,"number":158,"author":159,"date":101,"isSolution":20,"text":165,"rawContent":166,"votes":23,"userVote":23,"canFlag":20,"canVote":20,"canEdit":20,"canDelete":20,"isEditing":20,"reactions":167,"reactionUsers":168,"reactedEmoji":14,"comments":169,"isCommentsOpen":20,"rawCreatedAt":170},39841,9,{"id":160,"username":161,"name":162,"initials":163,"color":133,"avatarUrl":164,"groupBadge":14},"416","Change","Сергей Пронин","СП","\u002Fassets\u002Favatars\u002FWoEQyWXdktngPIiP6Ot5BJqT.png","\u003Cp>\u003Ca href=\"\u002Fquestion\u002F5164#post-1\" class=\"PostMention post-mention-tag\" data-id=\"21141\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">\u003Cspan class=\"mention-reply-arrow\" title=\"Перейти к сообщению\">⮑\u003C\u002Fspan> \u003Cspan class=\"mention-author-name\" title=\"Карточка специалиста SpecHelp ID\">Darya007\u003C\u002Fspan>\u003C\u002Fa> \u003Cbr>\u003Cbr>Можно, но с журналом на рабочем месте посложнее будет))\u003C\u002Fp>","[Darya007](http:\u002F\u002F185.104.248.233\u002Fd\u002F5164\u002F1) \n\nМожно, но с журналом на рабочем месте посложнее будет))",{},{},[],"2023-10-03T07:43:47+00:00",{"id":172,"number":21,"author":173,"date":16,"isSolution":20,"text":180,"rawContent":181,"votes":23,"userVote":23,"canFlag":20,"canVote":20,"canEdit":20,"canDelete":20,"isEditing":20,"reactions":182,"reactionUsers":183,"reactedEmoji":14,"comments":184,"isCommentsOpen":20,"rawCreatedAt":185},43247,{"id":174,"username":175,"name":176,"initials":177,"color":178,"avatarUrl":179,"groupBadge":14},"3207","id730746708","Ирина Никитина","ИН","#0F766E","\u002Fassets\u002Favatars\u002FuB1Y4ANoX7HJoMHK.png","\u003Cp>Еще добавлю, что нужно в журнале прописывать полностью фио инструктирующего и должность! Это помимо полной даты инструктируемого.\u003C\u002Fp>","Еще добавлю, что нужно в журнале прописывать полностью фио инструктирующего и должность! Это помимо полной даты инструктируемого.",{},{},[],"2023-11-17T09:02:29+00:00",{"id":187,"number":22,"author":188,"date":16,"isSolution":20,"text":195,"rawContent":196,"votes":23,"userVote":23,"canFlag":20,"canVote":20,"canEdit":20,"canDelete":20,"isEditing":20,"reactions":197,"reactionUsers":198,"reactedEmoji":14,"comments":199,"isCommentsOpen":20,"rawCreatedAt":28},43250,{"id":189,"username":190,"name":191,"initials":192,"color":38,"avatarUrl":193,"groupBadge":194},"1325","azarenkova","c","C","\u002Fassets\u002Favatars\u002FiuB7Ihi0zGPxjRlI.png",{"id":57,"name":58,"icon":59,"color":60},"\u003Cp>\u003Ca href=\"\u002Fquestion\u002F5164#post-1\" class=\"PostMention post-mention-tag\" data-id=\"21141\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">\u003Cspan class=\"mention-reply-arrow\" title=\"Перейти к сообщению\">⮑\u003C\u002Fspan> \u003Cspan class=\"mention-author-name\" title=\"Карточка специалиста SpecHelp ID\">Darya007\u003C\u002Fspan>\u003C\u002Fa>  продолжаю вести старый журнал. только дату рождения указываем полностью.\u003C\u002Fp>","[Darya007](http:\u002F\u002F185.104.248.233\u002Fd\u002F5164\u002F1)  продолжаю вести старый журнал. только дату рождения указываем полностью.",{},{},[]]